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		<title>By: Auto Loans</title>
		<link>http://threads13.com/?p=6&#038;cpage=1#comment-279</link>
		<dc:creator>Auto Loans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gained knowledge about Em JJ Quiz from my brother Ace . This is reports data and also very precise .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gained knowledge about Em JJ Quiz from my brother Ace . This is reports data and also very precise .</p>
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		<title>By: giorgio</title>
		<link>http://threads13.com/?p=6&#038;cpage=1#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>giorgio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 15:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
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		<title>By: threads13</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t say that it is definitely a better hand.  However, I am saying that it gains from having the initiative more than 88 does.  To be clear, I  am not saying that you should use the perverse strategy of  always raising 22 and always limping 88.  I am saying that how these hands benefit from having the initiative is something that you should consider.  The more you know the more dangerous you are.

A person who c-bets a lot isn&#039;t necessarily otherwise aggressive - sure.  It just depends what is aggressive in your head.  That explains why you probably didn&#039;t initially like the idea I suggested, but once I define the player it becomes more clear.  

I like to think hypothetically.  It makes you think of all angles.  If I say &quot;this play may be good against a certain time&quot; then it makes you ask yourself what player type it would be a good play against.  So, that&#039;s why I speak a little cryptically sometimes.&lt;replyto value=&quot;73&quot; /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say that it is definitely a better hand.  However, I am saying that it gains from having the initiative more than 88 does.  To be clear, I  am not saying that you should use the perverse strategy of  always raising 22 and always limping 88.  I am saying that how these hands benefit from having the initiative is something that you should consider.  The more you know the more dangerous you are.</p>
<p>A person who c-bets a lot isn&#8217;t necessarily otherwise aggressive &#8211; sure.  It just depends what is aggressive in your head.  That explains why you probably didn&#8217;t initially like the idea I suggested, but once I define the player it becomes more clear.  </p>
<p>I like to think hypothetically.  It makes you think of all angles.  If I say &#8220;this play may be good against a certain time&#8221; then it makes you ask yourself what player type it would be a good play against.  So, that&#8217;s why I speak a little cryptically sometimes.<replyto value="73" /></p>
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		<title>By: LearningCurve</title>
		<link>http://threads13.com/?p=6&#038;cpage=1#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>LearningCurve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacob,

Are you just saying 22 is a better hand to take a chance with because it&#039;s less valuable?

The type of player you described is very common but I don&#039;t consider him aggressive just because he cbets a lot.

So far I&#039;m the the first and only poster to your new site.  Watch it, Baby!  No booing me for not using your new handy, dandy feature.  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacob,</p>
<p>Are you just saying 22 is a better hand to take a chance with because it&#8217;s less valuable?</p>
<p>The type of player you described is very common but I don&#8217;t consider him aggressive just because he cbets a lot.</p>
<p>So far I&#8217;m the the first and only poster to your new site.  Watch it, Baby!  No booing me for not using your new handy, dandy feature.  <img src='http://threads13.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: threads13</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You didn&#039;t use the quote! Boooo.

Like this...

[quote post=&quot;6&quot;]“*** This concept can turn on its back a little bit with a pocket pair like 22. Do you see why?”

Would you mind clarifying for me please?[/quote]

The dynamics of having playing 22 for a raise works out better in some situations because you will tend to make your opponents play incorrectly postflop when you have 22 vs. when you have 66.  Yes, I am being cryptic, but I want to see if anyone else can fill in the blanks here.  :)

[quote post=&quot;6&quot;]“**** Against some loose aggressive players you can call the flop.”

Does this go with an A or K flopping in an URP when a limper before you bets? I’m thinking calling here might occasionally not be terrible if we know he is loose and aggressive, so long as we don’t think he’ll build a larger pot than we are interested in playing for.[/quote]

I have in mind a player raises a lot, but not too much, in position and that that c-bets a ton .  This player also gives up on the turn after being called on the flop a lot.  This is a fairly common player type.  

Against this guy you can call the flop because his action on the turn will often tell you if you are ahead or not.  Of course, the actual texture of the flop and the turn card plays a huge role.  Basically, you know where you are at often enough.&lt;replyto value=&quot;68&quot; /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You didn&#8217;t use the quote! Boooo.</p>
<p>Like this&#8230;</p>
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“*** This concept can turn on its back a little bit with a pocket pair like 22. Do you see why?”</p>
<p>Would you mind clarifying for me please?</p>
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<p>The dynamics of having playing 22 for a raise works out better in some situations because you will tend to make your opponents play incorrectly postflop when you have 22 vs. when you have 66.  Yes, I am being cryptic, but I want to see if anyone else can fill in the blanks here.  <img src='http://threads13.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<blockquote cite="http://threads13.com/?p=6#comment-"><p>
“**** Against some loose aggressive players you can call the flop.”</p>
<p>Does this go with an A or K flopping in an URP when a limper before you bets? I’m thinking calling here might occasionally not be terrible if we know he is loose and aggressive, so long as we don’t think he’ll build a larger pot than we are interested in playing for.</p>
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<p>I have in mind a player raises a lot, but not too much, in position and that that c-bets a ton .  This player also gives up on the turn after being called on the flop a lot.  This is a fairly common player type.  </p>
<p>Against this guy you can call the flop because his action on the turn will often tell you if you are ahead or not.  Of course, the actual texture of the flop and the turn card plays a huge role.  Basically, you know where you are at often enough.<replyto value="68" /></p>
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		<title>By: threads13</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: learningcurve2p2</title>
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		<dc:creator>learningcurve2p2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacob,

Nice, thoughtful analysis.  

I&#039;m not certain what you mean by this:

&quot;*** This concept can turn on its back a little bit with a pocket pair like 22. Do you see why?&quot;

Would you mind clarifying for me please?

Also, you said:

&quot;**** Against some loose aggressive players you can call the flop.&quot;

Does this go with an A or K flopping in an URP when a limper before you bets?  I&#039;m thinking calling here might occasionally not be terrible if we know he is loose and aggressive, so long as we don&#039;t think he&#039;ll build a larger pot than we are interested in playing for.

Thanks for taking the time to do this, Jacob.  It&#039;s always educational and enlightening!

LC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacob,</p>
<p>Nice, thoughtful analysis.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not certain what you mean by this:</p>
<p>&#8220;*** This concept can turn on its back a little bit with a pocket pair like 22. Do you see why?&#8221;</p>
<p>Would you mind clarifying for me please?</p>
<p>Also, you said:</p>
<p>&#8220;**** Against some loose aggressive players you can call the flop.&#8221;</p>
<p>Does this go with an A or K flopping in an URP when a limper before you bets?  I&#8217;m thinking calling here might occasionally not be terrible if we know he is loose and aggressive, so long as we don&#8217;t think he&#8217;ll build a larger pot than we are interested in playing for.</p>
<p>Thanks for taking the time to do this, Jacob.  It&#8217;s always educational and enlightening!</p>
<p>LC</p>
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		<title>By: Poker Hands &#187; Blog Archive &#187; My answers and thoughts on the No-Limit Hold ‘Em JJ Quiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Poker Hands &#187; Blog Archive &#187; My answers and thoughts on the No-Limit Hold ‘Em JJ Quiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] threads13.com wrote an interesting post today on My answers and thoughts on the No-Limit Hold &#226;??Em JJ QuizHere&#8217;s a quick excerpt A big thank you goes out to everyone for writing such long and thoughtful responses to the quiz I &#8230; in playing hands like this a cash game that I can’t really give a solid answer either way. The real point &#8230; exercises for your poker muscles. takingtest-jobtest.jpg Against a mix of mostly tight [...]</description>
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